I know a lot of jokes have been made about the birth scene in Breaking Dawn---lots of references and descriptions of it being a bloody mess-- but I gotta tell you that when I read it I was so caught up in what would happen next that I wasn't turned off by the blood and gore of it at all. I actually thought it was exciting.
My bigger concern was more about the fact that Jacob was still there. I was like, 'Stray dog! Go home already!!' But of course, Stephenie had to keep giving Jacob these prime spots in the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jacob kept her heart beating and he was there to take over when the bloodlust got to be too much for Rosalie. But was anyone else like, WTF you can't have the baby until your doctor gets there! Most womens' doctors are on call and Bella's own personal doctor and vampy-father-in-law, Carlisle, is off hunting at the very moment she needs to deliver, conveniently not being there for the birth.
That was the part that tripped me up. 'WAIT FOR CARLISLE!!! WHAT GOOD IS HAVING DADDY C BE THE BIG M.D. IF HE'S NOT THERE TO CATCH THE LITTLE BAT AS IT COMES FLYING OUT AND THEN STITCH BELLA UP LIKE HE'S ALREADY SO USED TO DOING?"
Of course, once I read Midnight Sun and learned how Edward's medical knowledge was equivalent to having several medical degrees plus experience helping Carlisle in the medical field, it made enough sense that Edward could deliver the baby, especially since he had gotten over his little problem of being so affected by Bella's blood. You guys all remember that part, right? Yep, turns out all that bit about her blood singing to him and him barely being able to resist it was nothing more than psychological people!!!! When he spent 24 hours thinking she was dead, he got over it. Freud wins again!
time for a picture...
time for a picture...
[Insert leaked picture here...mentally because I can't post it.]
~Bloodied around the mouth Edward holding Renesmee.~
"Take your shapteshifting, misogynistic imprinting ass somewhere else Jacob Black and stay the hell away from my girls!"
This wasn't a cheap 'Zach delivers Mrs. Belding's baby in the elevator' scene. It was Edward finally stepping it up and exuding himself as the strong, controlled, steady-handed, confident 109-year-old vampire we all knew he could be! And I loved it!!!! TAKE-CHARGE WARD gets me excited!!! And *tears* I was as proud of Edward as Carlisle expressed he was that Edward had the foreskin...ooops I mean foresight to put some of his venom into a syringe in anticipation of using it to change Bella.
But now how did that work exactly? Collecting the venom? Did he spit it into a cup? How did he make it build up? Was he looking at pictures of Bella while in a little room?
I digress.
So in BD, the twist became that changing Bella as she had wanted became necessary to saving her, nullifying whatever plan Edward already had in place to change Bella.
But having the syringe prepared ultimately makes me wonder...If Stephenie were to write all the books from Edward's POV, what would his original plan have been for changing Bella? He had to have thought about it and chronicled it, perhaps in a journal, no? After all, that was the deal he entered with Bella--marry me first and then I'll change you. He had already worked out using morphine with Carlisle. I think there is a story there to be shared by Ms. Meyer. Reason #6,421 why we need more of Edward's POV.
What did you think of the birth scene when you read it in the book?
What do you think Edward's original plan was? Or how did you see it going a different way?
Have you read any fanfiction stories where Bella was changed by Edward out of his choice with no baby in the picture? How did they go and did you like them?
Share in the comments!



13 comments:
First, I haven't seen the bloody mouth shot. Second*plot hole alert* Vamp Bella has to change her contact lens because venom melts stuff, right? So where was Edward storing the venom and for how long if it was there ready to go?
Collecting the venom? I would have used a hands on approach, if you know what I mean.
I was pissed that Jacob was there during that time too and I didn't pay a lot of attention to the bloodiness of it all. I was pissed that E handed the baby to B only to bit but Alice never saw that.
I liked the birth scene as is. Edward got to be the hero, saving her, cumming up, I mean coming up, with the idea of the shot of venom, and he got to tell wimp Jacob to leave if he couldn't take it any more. The clip of that, Edward smacking Jacob down, made me smile.
I'm with you, I like seeing powerful vamp Edward rise to the occasion.
I like to think Edward's original plan to change her would have been, for movie purposes only, to recreate the gazebo scene, where he's about to bite her lovely neck, and then actually does it. But book Edward probably would have done it all clinical, careful not to hurt her and all.
I like reading the various ways ff authors see the change happening, but I still like BD version best.
@carol, I'd have to check but if it was a just a metal syringe or maybe made of silver--i guess metal not affected. But GOOD CALL!
@IJM, Yeah exactly what DID Alice see? Her visions are as inconvenient as Carlisle's hunting timing.
@BT, OMG the thought of Edward recreating the gazebo scene but going through with it just sent shivers down me. GREAT IDEA Fran! And I agree, book Edward would have been cinical and boring.
See this is why I love to hear from you guys--gives me more Twilight food for thought! :)
Oh geez, kiTT. I was laughing out loud reading this post.
Reason #17: ...TO CATCH THE LITTLE BAT AS IT COMES FLYING OUT...
Reason #21: And *tears* I was as proud of Edward as Carlisle expressed he was that Edward had the foreskin...ooops I mean foresight...
Reason #50: How did he make it build up? Was he looking at pictures of Bella while in a little room?
Question E - Birth scene: Since I read the books after Twilight came out at the movies, I thought "How in the hell are they going to show this in a movie?" Yeah, I'm deep like that.
Question P - Edward's original plan: I think he thought there was a chance he'd kill her when they sex on their honeymoon, so he would have been prepared to bite her there. Right there. (twss)
Question O - Did I see it going a different way: I figured Grandpa C would be delivering the baby, but I like your point about all of Edward's medical knowledge, etc. He really was well endowed...er...equipped to whip...er...rip it out.
Question V - I think you know the answer to this one, but for the record, no.
Great post. Thanks for the laughs. I needed this after my work day today.
-Viv
I always wondered why Jacob stayed around for the birth but I get it now... he's attached to Renesmee through their imprinting. I read a story of Breaking Dawn from Renesmee's POV (it starts while she's still in the womb) and it was so wonderfully written and gives great insight into what was going on. I don't read many vamp fics but the ones I read E hasn't turned B yet grrr it's a source of frustration with me.
I don't think Edward actually came up with a plan until after she became pregnant. He was living in a fools paradise where he thought he could put her off forever so I think the baby just made him come up with quick creative ways to save her.
@Viv, you are so easily entertained by my sense of humor. I'm glad. Sorry you had a tough day. Hope no one was (t)or(t)uring you via email or anything like that.
@Kassie, I had considered Edward not having a plan, too. Just like with saying there were ways to keep the Volturi at bay, he may have thought he could keep putting Bella off. Before she found out she was pregnant she had agreed to go away to college. *sings rap for you* 'Living in a vam-pyre's paradise'
I loved reading the birth scene in BD. Finally some gore!!! I can't wait to see how they handle it in the movie. I hope it is horrific.
I think if Bella had not become pregnant Edward could have persuaded her to wait with all of his good lovin'. Who would want to give that up?
Let Your Light Shine by LolaShoes. The first book in the holy trinity that takes up when Bella enters the ocean and Stephenie Meyer's story fades to black. Edward gives Bella her sexy vampire fantasy and bites her while making love!
If anyone hasn't read these stories [Let Your Light Shine, A Life Extraordinary, and This Hungry World] stop what you're doing RIGHT NOW and get to it! Lolashoes wrote the perfect ending to the story of our lovebirds. They are no longer on FFN, but Lola gave notice before she took them down, so they are on the databases. Or contact me and maybe I can hook you up.
Also - Let Your Light Shine is available as an audio download free on iFic [look on iTunes under podcasts]. Twilight porn-to-go!
Great post...you made me think & it's geeting late. It's been about 2 years since I read BD. I read all tge books 4 times in a row but I'm a little rusty because I read so much FF.
I never thought about how he collected the venom until you asked it in your post. My pervy mind pictured Edward with Victorian era porn jerking off into a cup. :)
I think he collected the venom to change her in the first place so he wouldn't have to cause more pain for Bella by biting her. He could inject her with the morphine & then his venom.
I liked the birth scene in the book. I remembered thinking please don't die Bella! It was a pretty crazy scene. I'm looking forward to see how it plays out in the movie.
I don't read much vamp fics but the ones I have most of the time it has been romantic when he changed her. I don't remember the title but early on in my fic reading I did read a dark fic where Edward & Bella are in tge meadow and having sex. Edward can't control his urges and ended up killing her. Not a happy ending there.
I'm back because I realized I didn't mention the birth scene. I got stuck on how Edward wanted to change Bella. Because in my perfect world, there was none of that Renesmee nonsense!
BUT, if it had to happen, I actually liked the way it was in BD. I liked Edward taking charge and in control.
OK, done now.
@MR, A gore fan? I hadn't considered it being too gorey but maybe it will be. I guess that is a benefit to seeing it vs. reading it. When I read it, it wasn't overly gorey, but it was really fast. Those pages were complete pageturners--maybe the best of the whole series (?) I'm really looking forward to how it plays out now.
@RugbyMom, I did mark "Let you light shine" to read a long, long time ago and never did. #fail I kinda stop by your perfect world and visit sometimes, lol. Well I don't mind Renesmee, just not the imprinting business. i hate thinking that Renesmee was born out of SM's 'perfect idea to keep Jacob in the picture.' bleh!
@Twi-Lin, 'collected the venom so he wouldn't cause her more pain with biting her' BRILLIANT and that SO sounds like Edward! Will you reread BD before the movie? I wanna say I read that same fic of Bella dying in the meadow but have no clue of the name. :)
Glad you guys came by and shared your thoughts with us!!! :)
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I loved this post! You had me laughing out loud :-)
That is all.
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