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Wednesday, July 13, 2011

Complicated Friendship: Rosalie

Stephenie Meyer spoke how Rosalie's story didn't present itself right away. Often as I think about my RL dealings, Twilight doesn't always present itself to me right away either but eventually I come to a realization or two...thousand. And I had one about Rosalie.

"I envy you Bella, Emmett's peen is crooked and doesn't sparkle for some reason."

So let's talk about Rosalie. Do you love her? Do you hate her? Did you have a change of heart about her once she explained her story more to Bella? Was it only once she was trading insults with the dog in Breaking Dawn that you decided she wasn't all bad?

I can say that I never disliked Rosalie while reading the Saga books. Maybe I was just so caught up with Edward to care about her. But when she approached Bella in Eclipse and discussed her life with her, I read it as a very sensitive heart to heart. I liked how Rosalie approached Bella and offered up her story to her. (Heck, I was just glad Bella had left hanging out with Jake and returned to the Cullen house at that point!)

I *guess* the whole Rosalie backstory worked on the surface, but whenever I think about her and compare her to RL people I just find too many holes in her story.

It was one thing to read in Twilight the explanation from Edward to Bella that Rosalie was jealous of the fact that Edward showed some affection toward Bella when he had never showed any toward her. Rosalie had grown up beautiful and was used to getting attention from men. So I guess for her she was so used to the attention, that Edward's immediate disapproval in Carlisle changing Rosalie in hopes of providing Edward a mate was a sting of rejection.

I can understand that.

Here's my first hole with that story, though. You would have thought that with the rampage Rosalie went on in which she killed her attackers and then finally her own fiancee she would have been in a 'All Men are Scum' state of mind in those early days of her newborn stage and didn't want any part in Edward anyway. Her decision to to take action against Royce would seem convincing that she wasn't looking to be subject to anyone making decisions for her. She wasn't happy about Carlisle turning her and taking the decision of death away from her. Why would she want someone else to choose her mate for her?

Then she finds Emmett. Not only is it her decision to drag him to Carlisle to change him, he turns out to be everything she needs and wants in a guy.

So why was there a latent sense of jealousy showing up when Bella got in the mix? Why couldn't she be happy for her brother that he had a chance at finding happiness just like the rest of the Cullen men?


I actually was really horrified when I read Midnight Sun and learned Rosalie was pushing to kill Bella as her answer to avoiding exposure, expecting the humans would believe she had a secondary brain bleed after the van accident. And even Jasper was on board with that!!! Were you shocked by that?

The Cullens had been subject to exposure in the past, and I realize that Edward saving Bella was a very public incident, but did it warrant murder? Carlisle didn't relish killing a sadistic creature like James so why was there even consideration to kill an innocent young girl?  Hole #2

And I don't buy that Rosalie didn't like Bella.

I think it was totally unfair of Rosalie to lay on Bella everything she had lost and missed out on by becoming a vampire. Bella was one of millions of people in the world. Just one person. One accident prone teenager. Plenty of women in the world were still going to go on and lead the life Rosalie would have wanted, so if she didn't like Bella then why did she care if Bella was 'throwing away those possibilities?'

Do we as women ever *want* something for another woman that we can't have for ourselves? <--Being unselfish is difficult, but easier to be unselfish for a person that is someone we care about.

I think Rosalie really did come to have a fondness for Bella. Bella was probably the first human that Rosalie allowed herself to have an attachment to since Emmett. And in voicing her 'I'm envious of you' speech, I think Rosalie really was explaining that she cared for Bella, like a big sister, enough that she wanted to offer her perspective and advice. She wanted to see Bella have the things in life that Rosalie missed out on--so I maintain that only a big sister type or friend would have offered her such advice.

What did you think of Rosalie? Did your opinion of her change as the Saga went on?

Who is your favorite Rosalie in fanfiction?

As always, I will enjoy reading your thoughts on the topic and getting your perspective, so leave me a comment. I won't reply right away because I'm away but I will when I get back!

~kiTT

6 comments:

Kelly said...

I never disliked Rosalie. I think it was obvious that she had a chip on her shoulder.. no one is ever that mad without having something under it a reason.

I think her actions toward Bella are more in the way of trying to scare her away than being mean to her because she can't handle that Edward found someone.. I don't think she ever wanted anything to do with Edward beyond him being her Cullen Brother.

I also think that Rosalie doesn't resent the fact that Carlisle changed her without a choice as much as she resents that Royce and his friends robbed her of her life. Sure she got revenge, but really... did it fix anything? Did it give her the life she wanted back.. no. Don't get me wrong, it was totally bad ass the way she showed up in that wedding dress and he was hiding in a windowless room and she got her revenge... bad ass... but if you think about it, Rosalie's tale is a cautionary one, in a way... revenge hardly ever really fixes anything.

I think her telling of her story to Bella was the right thing to do.. there are a lot of things we sometimes do not consider when we make life changing decisions.. and often we cannot go back and unmake the decision... sometimes the decision is a final one... like the one Bella is making. Making Bella aware of another perspective, I think, shows the humanity Rosalie still possesses.

As for finding out they wanted to kill Bella in Midnight Sun.. well.. when Edward first saves Bella it is very early on in the story... I was not shocked to find out that they felt that way. I mean.. it's their nature to protect themselves... at that time Edward was still denying what he was feeling for Bella.. and to them... she was just an overwhelming temptation that could destroy their lives. So no I wasn’t surprised.. no more than when I hear about wild animals killing their keepers or trainers.. it's in their nature.

Now aren't you glad you asked :)

Hope you are having a good time away :)

itsjustme1217 said...

Truthfully, I never liked Rosalie. I never plenty of people like her in real life. Rich and beautiful but mean. You know, a bitch.
Anyway, I'm like you TT, I couldn't understand how she could claim to care about Edward and know how lonely he is and rob him of his chance, make him feel guilty about it, and just generally be a butch. I felt a little bad for her when I heard her story but it still doesn't give her the right to treat other people miserably because something bad happened to her.

Kelly said...

Funny enough that when you post this I am making my way through the Saga Audio books and I am now listening to Breaking Dawn.

There is a part, before the humpire is born that Leah has a chat with Jacob about this exact topic... well about Rosalie and her motives.. and I thought it was interesting that Leah got it.. at least she thought she understood why Rosalie was doing what she was doing with Bella and the baby.

IJM & TT.. I think you're right in saying that no matter what may happen in someone's life.. it doesn't give them the right to treat others miserably... there is nothing that would give anyone that right... but... sometimes.. though it goes against human nature... until you have walked a mile in someone else’s shoes.. who is to say what it and is not appropriate behavior.

I think that's why the whole idea of a "pack-mind" is neat. Jacob grows because he can see and feel what others are seeing and feeling... it opens his eyes to things he wouldn't normally understand...

Sorry to be going on and on... who would have thought that another listen to the Saga would have me waxing philosophical.... I usually just listen to it to get wrapped up in the that Rob's beautiful face is what I see as Edward... hmmmmmmm :)

Bleriana said...

No idea who that Rosalie chick even is, but did you mention p33n in a post of yours??
BWAHAHAHAHHA
#kiTTisbecomingaperv

BellaTesoro said...

Rosalie and Edward never really had that strong a bond, not in the Saga anyway. They were sort of detached for whatever reasons, mostly it's just because there was no "spark" there. He always felt guilty not having that attachment to her and I don't think he liked her brassy personalty. But with Emmett, they a had a perfect balance, he helped mellow her out.
Rosalie's vampire personalty was that of a selfish, pampered, ego driven character. Until that late night visit to Bella where she tries to explain why she's so seemingly "cold" inside and out. It is at this point I started to sympathize with her and understand her motivations. In BD well, she came through again. She was there for Bella, granted she had her own motives but she could have just handed her over to Edward/Carlisle to let them handle it, but instead she became female warrior. I admire Rosalie for her strong beliefs and dam she won me over with that dog bowl she served Jacob's steak in.
Best ff Rosalie, hands down goes to of course EP Rosalie. She was laugh out loud funny, bad ass, protective, and gave Bella all the girlie advice she'd ever need, and hands down gave her the best Christmas present ever.

TongueTwied said...

@Kelly, the cautionary tale about revenge is interesting point you bring up. And yes, I'm glad I asked. Interesting you brought Leah up. I get it though. I felt sorry for her. I guess SM just didn't want us to 'dislike' any of her characters for their flaws?

@IJM, I love when you are chaTTy! Yeah it was obvious the vampires had a tendency to 'mate for life' so why was Rosalie willing to block that from happening to Edward and ruin his shot at happiness?

@Bleriana, LOL I maintain that I run a respectable blog even with the use of p33n!

@Bella, So you are saying Emmett served as a buffer because Edward did seem to have a very strong, easy brotherly friendship with him. I'm glad Bella didn't give up on trying to befriend Rosalie. I think it helped Rosalie grow as a person, step outside her box. And I loved the FIDO bowl too! Can't wait to see that in the movie!